Desde que salimos de la recesión a finales de 2013, y empezamos a crecer por encima del 3%, esto es lo que ha hecho la bolsa española:
Toda esa gente que invierte, siguiendo el mensaje machacón de los políticos que el PIB crecía por encima del 3%, se la han pegado… Es condición necesaria para que salgamos de la crisis que haya crecimiento, pero no es suficiente. La crisis que vivimos desde el 2008 es una crisis de deuda, no de crecimiento.
Hasta que no consigamos reducir las deudas, o recuperemos la solvencia de España, seguiremos en crisis… Y me temo que va para largo, ya que los estímulos, el dinero que está poniendo el BCE, se puede acabar; la bondad del precio de crudo barato, tampoco nos afecta ya positivamente (ha pasado más de un año); las exportaciones, que fueron el tirón de la economía española para salir de la recesión, tampoco ayudan ahora…
Todo está de nuevo basado en que crezca el consumo, hasta Podemos dice que debe aumentar el consumo!!!, y que vuelvan a subir los pisos… Es demencial la sarta de mensajes que nos cuentan y como se vuelve a engañar al españolito medio…
Siempre pensamos que los resultados empresariales es lo que estamos comprando en bolsa. Sí, a la larga así es, pero a corto plazo esto no funciona tan directamente. Aquí abajo se compara los datos de beneficios de las empresas y los rendimientos de las bolsas, y podemos ver que hay una gran divergencia… Afecta mucho la psicología de los inversores, la macro, las expectativas futuras, las actuaciones de los banqueros centrales…, pero afecta otro mogollón de cosas más…
How Much Do Profits Matter To Stock Market Returns?
The Great Financial Crisis was missed by such a large number of pundits, economists and investors that during the ensuing recovery we’ve seen a huge influx in the number of people trying to predict a the next downturn. People desperately want to call the next big one before it hits.
First it was fears of a double dip recession (that never came). Then we were told we were already in a recession in 2011 (also didn’t happen). Next oil or the dollar or emerging markets or China was going to lead to a recession. Eventually one of these predictions will be right as economic expansions don’t last forever.
In the meantime, we have a new recession that’s much easier to track with real-time data — the dreaded earnings recession. Here’s Savita Subramanian from Bank of America recently describing the current earnings recession that has people worried:
Publicly traded companies have seen negative earnings growth two quarters in a row and there are no fundamental underpinnings for the rally, Savita Subramanian, BofAML’s head of U.S. equity and quantitative strategy, said on CNBC’s “Fast Money” this week.
“We are in a profits recession. There (are) no two ways around it,” said Subramanian, whose S&P 500 price target of 2,000 is among the lowest on Wall Street. She is also concerned about how Federal Reserve monetary policy could affect stocks.
“You have the Fed embarking on a long, slow tightening cycle. Tightening into a profits recession doesn’t sound like anything to throw a big party about,” she said.
I’m not trying to downplay a drop off in fundamentals. Falling earnings could be a harbinger of bad things to come in the markets. As we’ve been warned about for the past 3 or 4 years now, this recovery is getting a little long in the tooth.
One of the biggest problems in the world of finance is that people make proclamations without backing it up with evidence. So I wanted to see what the historical relationship looks like between profit growth and stock market returns. Using Federal Reserve data on corporate profits, I looked back at the historical growth rate of profits by decade and compared them to that decade’s stock market returns (using the S&P 500):
Now let’s break things down even further by market type:
(Although the S&P 500 was up 6% per year in the 1966-1981 period, many consider this a sideways market because the Dow went nowhere from a price perspective and once you take inflation into account real returns were basically zero.)
There’s really not much of a discernible pattern that can be detected here. High profit growth has led to both high and low stock market returns throughout the post-WWII period. There were also times of low profit growth with high stock market returns.
The greatest profit growth was seen in two of the worst-performing stock market decades — the 1970s and 2000s. But those periods were markedly different as the 70s saw sky-high inflation with rising interest rates while the 2000s had low inflation and falling rates.
After accounting for inflation, the 1980s only saw profit growth of roughly 1.6%, but stocks returned more than 17% per year (12% real). The 1950s and 1960s saw one of the greatest bull markets of all-time, but profit growth was basically average. Profits growth has been non-existent during the latest bull market cycle, but stocks are up gangbusters anyways.
This all really comes down to the problem with single variable analysis. You can never look at a single factor in isolation and use it to tell you exactly what’s going to happen with the stock market, even something as important as profit growth. There are so many other factors to consider here — inflation, the economic environment, allocation preferences, demographics, interest rates, profit margins, etc. Then you have to consider the all-important question of how much are investors willing to pay for current or future profits?
I’m not saying that profits aren’t important to the stock market. They are. Over this entire period since 1950 earnings have grown an astonishing 8000%+ or just shy of 7% per year. We need to see corporate earnings growth so companies can increase wages, invest in capex, pay out dividends and buyback shares.
When the next recession hits we will see profits contract and the stock market will likely go into a bear market. But for investors trying to figure out what’s going to happen in the coming cycle, the link between profit growth and stock market performance may not be as strong as some would have you believe.
Maybe the biggest takeaway here is that investors have a hard time figuring out how much to pay for future profits.
Abrazos,
PD1: ¿Cuáles son las virtudes que deberíamos tener?
Fe
Obediencia
Ternura
Disponibilidad
Espíritu de servicio
Fortaleza
Humildad
Sencillez
Agradecimiento…
Y todas las que se te ocurran, pero éstas son para mí muy importantes…
